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Harry
2006-08-31 22:21:44 UTC
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how many & for how many times have changed mood stabilizers?Curious
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Maggie
2006-09-01 16:05:41 UTC
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Post by Harry
how many & for how many times have changed mood stabilizers?Curious
(blue)
Please advise on n/g or off any progress in this area....Hoping there
may be some today.

And.....I must note that yes.......I definately get the allusion. did
I anctually tell you about my reaction to seeing Version Yellow in
college? I think I did and the only think I truly remember was the
king of Sweeden riding his bycycle to work and the close up shots of
the less than attractive pores on the skin shown on a movie theatre
screen.

And yes......i remember there is another series of movies....in another
competely differnt area....and you favorite was Blue.......staring
what's her name.....Juliette Binoche? who truly is truly, deeply
talented (and lovely). Also suspect you get the allusiion to a favotie
line of mine from Breakfast at Tiffany's.

Maggie
still happy to be a friend and admirer of Harry Haller
Maggie
2006-09-01 16:05:41 UTC
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Post by Harry
how many & for how many times have changed mood stabilizers?Curious
(blue)
Please advise on n/g or off any progress in this area....Hoping there
may be some today.

And.....I must note that yes.......I definately get the allusion. did
I anctually tell you about my reaction to seeing Version Yellow in
college? I think I did and the only think I truly remember was the
king of Sweeden riding his bycycle to work and the close up shots of
the less than attractive pores on the skin shown on a movie theatre
screen.

And yes......i remember there is another series of movies....in another
competely differnt area....and you favorite was Blue.......staring
what's her name.....Juliette Binoche? who truly is truly, deeply
talented (and lovely). Also suspect you get the allusiion to a favotie
line of mine from Breakfast at Tiffany's.

Maggie
still happy to be a friend and admirer of Harry Haller
Maggie
2006-09-01 16:05:41 UTC
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Post by Harry
how many & for how many times have changed mood stabilizers?Curious
(blue)
Please advise on n/g or off any progress in this area....Hoping there
may be some today.

And.....I must note that yes.......I definately get the allusion. did
I anctually tell you about my reaction to seeing Version Yellow in
college? I think I did and the only think I truly remember was the
king of Sweeden riding his bycycle to work and the close up shots of
the less than attractive pores on the skin shown on a movie theatre
screen.

And yes......i remember there is another series of movies....in another
competely differnt area....and you favorite was Blue.......staring
what's her name.....Juliette Binoche? who truly is truly, deeply
talented (and lovely). Also suspect you get the allusiion to a favotie
line of mine from Breakfast at Tiffany's.

Maggie
still happy to be a friend and admirer of Harry Haller
HoPpeR© trading at 1492¥
2006-09-01 16:08:41 UTC
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Post by Harry
how many & for how many times have changed mood stabilizers?Curious
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I tried four. The last one worked.

Be well,

HoP

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Maggie
2006-09-01 22:01:13 UTC
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Post by Harry
how many & for how many times have changed mood stabilizers?Curious
(blue)
I tried four. The last one worked.
Lamictal...first and only moodstablizer. None had even been suggested
by my now ex-shrink. i brought it up to her about 2 years of diagnosis
and placed solely on Effexor.....so hihly dosed that i didn't have the
motivation to get up and dressed and down to the cornor store at the
end of my street til I'ld been off cigarettes for 4-5 days.

i told the shrink this and she said, oh don't worry about that. At
least you're now rarely suicdal. in retrosect......wouldn't it have
been great to have actually quit smoking then.

And i onlu askked this Dr. to put me on a mood stabllizer after Lynda
NP told me that it was beyond shocking that i had been diagnosed 2
years before but never had it even suggest that I might need a mood
stablizer. SHe.....LYNDA NP....also suggested that Lamictal,,,,,still
off label but apparrently effective with Ad for Bp 2 seemed like the
best one to try.


I suggested this to my doctor who had only been pushing fulltime
voluntary addmission for hospitalizaion, or at least consider going
into a partial day program.

Her comment at my suggestion of a mood stablierer......specifically
Lamictal.

Almost verbatim.....oh....yeah....thiat might be soething to really
consider it. Sorry, it just hadn't occurred to me. it should
have....sorry.

So the first 2 years of being so suicidal that i'd actually qualified
for bisability on her accesment of my condition. While doing the
evaluation with me said....okay...what do you think i should pput as
one of the 5 posibilities of long term prognotis? The
loweest...fatal\? i asked this isn't actually fatal is it.....Her
reply....well you really might kill yourself. My reply.....lets hope
this works.....my attempt to manage the BP....Let's go one click up
above declaring fatal then. Risk that she might die.

No shit.

And this wasnot a cheap clinic. i was and always have been
fully...truly full insured.

Two years of my life literally burned.....ever to be regained
again...and that thrill of feeling....yes, i really am at very high
risk of suicide...never getting better.....in theknowledge of myself
and all medical practioners that my other had actually committed suiced
when she was much younger that the age I was during this time.

And yes.....i have serious issues around the quality and competency in
the treatment off mood disorders in the United States even now in he
lofy year 2006.

Some one really must write that book...or at leas a phamplet enittleds,
yes, doctor, you degognized when I am depressed but you recognized it
or even heard the patient make the slightest mention of a history of
Manic depression in he family.

Hint? A depressed person tellls you that they have a history of wild
out of the blue shopping sprees and cannot actually tell you what i
bought....totalling several thousand dollars...stores and totals and
dates all clearly listed on my credit card bills.

Please, please, please require the entire medical community.......if
here is recurring severe depressive episodes and lots of suicidal
ideatoin......hey......at least try the paient on a mood
stablizer.......any mood sablizer.

If it is at all evective....patient gets even a little
better....BINGO..it is absolutely BP. Diagnose it and keep that Mood
Stablizer on the must have list for the rest of her life.
Post by HoPpeR© trading at 1492¥
From what I understand a mood stabizer doesn't produce any type of
reaction....it's probably not BP.

The waste sickenns mme.

But you who know me already know how close this concept is to health.

Maggie
Maggie
2006-09-03 06:46:24 UTC
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Maggie wrote:

Please note this post...totally true....is a vivid examply of what I
posted over an at least 3 days in a significant and not realized by me
episode of hypomania.
Post by Maggie
Lamictal...first and only moodstablizer. None had even been suggested
by my now ex-shrink. i brought it up to her about 2 years of diagnosis
and placed solely on Effexor.....so hihly dosed that i didn't have the
motivation to get up and dressed and down to the cornor store at the
end of my street til I'ld been off cigarettes for 4-5 days.
Dur9ing said 2 years diagnosed but not put aon a mood stablizer
mentioned here, I also blew over $10K on fabulous bargains on truly
beautiful things the bulk of which have still been unused.....4 years
later stuff. All of which had a tone of grandiosity in that they are
in a kick you in the face.....yes, i really have been a legitimately ,
high funtioning., truly well qulified and remakabley
fascinating......and these purchase will help me return to such life
soon....things. A dream still unrealized.

I have not yet found a way to "return for even less than purchase
price" this stuff...I was able to donate maybe 20% of it during the
Katrina pleae donated things we can sell to raise money charities, in
the knowledge that these Katrina wiped out people are very much the
Delta people of my mother's enrite in that area for other people.

These purchase as still a deep source of self loathing in what I can
spend in hypo.....it's just before this breakdown, i spent a ton of
similar lovely deep discount stuff....tones of it at a one weekend out
of no where black belt shopping sprees. Those things could actually be
returned, unused with reciept.....charge back to credit
cards.......humiliating returned to the stores....for the most part.

You cannot return eBay. You cannot trry things on and seperate out the
beautiful but not quite a color I can wear or a style that flatters me
clothing. This factor far outweight the horro of my previous sprees on
thing that could be returned. Not even remotely worth the cost spent
on i can't use it stuff.....compared to a $10K in two years spee on
stuff that actually fit and looked good.........even at sraight and
freightening retail.

So.....ping Hop and Skip.

Skip....yes you were write, hey I'm worried about you....with my no,
no, no, thanks! I'm fine replies.

Please, ping me and slap me with a listen, Mags, you are quite,
hypomanic and it's obvious to every one but you......when you see it
happening again. Please repeat as needed...Even if it means teeth
kicking, detained screaming it, till even I believe it!

Please, can i count on you on this one.

Now that the mood stabloizer has left me largely not suicidal....i
recognize that when i see it.....i don't see hypo that clearly.....and
have always thought of it as the trade off I was willing to give up to
avoid being highly at risk for suicide.

Love,
Maggie
obviously still a little two high...but so much better....not yet
better enough...stable.

HoPpeR© trading at 1492¥
2006-09-01 16:08:41 UTC
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Post by Harry
how many & for how many times have changed mood stabilizers?Curious
(blue)
I tried four. The last one worked.

Be well,

HoP

The preceding message represents personal opinions
and/or advice that may prove incorrect or harmful. But then maybe not.
Feel free to disregard.

------- Words have no Warranty ------
------- No View without Merit ------
..
Otenkiya
2006-09-01 17:18:45 UTC
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Post by Harry
how many & for how many times have changed mood stabilizers?Curious
(blue)
I'm still on number one...then again, I was only diagnosed six months
ago. I'm still young, and there's time for many changes.

Gee, I hope I didn't just jinx myself...
--
-Erica ^.^
I live for breaking the mold.
marcia
2006-09-02 01:54:16 UTC
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Post by Otenkiya
Post by Harry
how many & for how many times have changed mood stabilizers?Curious
(blue)
I'm still on number one...then again, I was only diagnosed six months
ago. I'm still young, and there's time for many changes.
Gee, I hope I didn't just jinx myself...
--
-Erica ^.^
I live for breaking the mold.
Let's see... Depakote, Zyprexa, Risperdal, Neurontin, Seroquel,
Lamictal, Neurontin (again), Abilify... something's missing...

At least 8. Some worked; some didn't. So far, Seroquel and Abilify have
been the best.

Don't worry, Otenkiya. Some people stay on the same mood stabilizer for
years, no problem. If you have to change at some point, the options
will probably be better than they are now.

marcia
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