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Bipoolar and ADHD
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Markey
2006-06-19 03:17:46 UTC
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My doctor thinks I may have ADHD along with my bipolar.

I know a lot of the symptoms cross over from each illness.

Has anyone been diagnosed with both?

If so, How do you handle both illnesses?

Mark
Maggie
2006-06-19 10:53:22 UTC
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Post by Markey
My doctor thinks I may have ADHD along with my bipolar.
I know a lot of the symptoms cross over from each illness.
Has anyone been diagnosed with both?
If so, How do you handle both illnesses?
Mark
Okay, as an ADD suspect myself I have the understanding that the DSM
specifically excludes BP from the diagnosis because"they symptoms of
ADD can be explained by the way BP manifests" or something close to
that line.

Eagerly awaiting expert knowledge on this one.

How did I deal with it......charm and cultivating the image that i was
a vivacious cutie who was sometimes and airhead.

charm and beauty can take a girl a very long way IME. Not so thrilling
when one faces the coming of age though.

PS: there's an ADD n/g but a lot of them are very wierd. My freind
Emma anne on that group is a wonderful source of wisdom coping
techniques and moral support. See if you an find her through the
flack.

and once again, Mark, you are not alone in this.

Maggie,
Harry
2006-06-19 23:47:19 UTC
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Post by Markey
My doctor thinks I may have ADHD along with my bipolar.
I know a lot of the symptoms cross over from each illness.
Has anyone been diagnosed with both?
If so, How do you handle both illnesses?
Mark
Okay, as an ADD suspect myself I have the understanding that the DSM
specifically excludes BP from the diagnosis because"they symptoms of
ADD can be explained by the way BP manifests" or something close to
that line.
Eagerly awaiting expert knowledge on this one.
How did I deal with it......charm and cultivating the image that i was
a vivacious cutie who was sometimes and airhead.
charm and beauty can take a girl a very long way IME. Not so thrilling
when one faces the coming of age though.
PS: there's an ADD n/g but a lot of them are very wierd. My freind
Emma anne on that group is a wonderful source of wisdom coping
techniques and moral support. See if you an find her through the
flack.
and once again, Mark, you are not alone in this.
Maggie,
Hi Maggie-I think I qualify if I could pay attention.Look,it took those
menatl health pros,doctors and counselors,to dx me bipolar.Or they did
after I told them,so they did provisionally.Like Garfield say,life is
good-Harry

"If you saw a drowning man would you offer him a hand even if he could
pull you in"-from "Masked & Anonymous".
Maggie
2006-06-21 01:09:56 UTC
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Post by Markey
My doctor thinks I may have ADHD along with my bipolar.
I know a lot of the symptoms cross over from each illness.
Has anyone been diagnosed with both?
If so, How do you handle both illnesses?
Mark
Okay....her'e my serious answer.

For reasons that include BP2 and being an ADD suspect the tendency to
be off my game and letting everything slide makes me feel a strong need
to be as organized as possible. The best approach for me has been a
continuing need to have things as well organized as possible.

So far, I have certain areas of my like very well organized and they
have stayed that way since the bones of the organizion are in place.
finding a good sytem and it becomes idiot proof......and idot proof is
what I strive for.

Some areas where i've don this include my clothestes and drawers
(clothing) which includes the fact that i have have large portions ofr
my wardrobe corordinated around color palates.....olive, navy, browns
and blacks work well for me. I have several suit sets where combo
pieces, slacks, blouses, etc are offerred in the same palat and I tend
to buy the coordinating peieces resulting in several outfit groupsing
occur from each set of combos. I have blouses, shoes, belts that
coordinate withing and between the neutral palates and this makes
pulling it together relative easy.

I have an excellent filing sysptem and organizer/daybook/todo list (I
use Lotus Organizer) and I've modified these to work with the way my
mind works.....and after organiziing the categories that work for
me......took some adjust ment. It workds extreemly well.

Ii have my finances organized with the use of online banking, direct
deposits, use of a dedit card where ever possible and prescheduling
expense payments such as motrgage and utilities, etc automatically go
out on presullected days every month. Every now and then i have to
adjust, but worst case scenario my utlilites are never cut off because
I forgot to pay a bill. In fact, by sending a preset amount every
month I usualy have a siglt plus balance on all these bills.

I also have a specific place where i put things like scissors, stamps,
my keys, this makes finding things so much easier and I rarely lose the
things. Being unable to find things that I know are hidden in plain
sight can send me into freek out mode really quickly and this is
usually the trigger for just another round of putting systems in place.


And.....here is the strongest point I wish to make. When I'm on top of
my game it allows me to work at maziumum effeciency beause the systems
are in place and I can see what has been done and what needs to be done
and turn my focus to the right things.

But......even more importantly to anyone with large fluctuations in
ability to be functional, it minimizes things that slip through the
cracks to the degree that this can be done.

I usually let things slide...but thr bones of the system are there and
it often means picking up on the thing that have slid, putting them
away where they belong....because they now do have a polace where they
belong...what a luxury! and getting caught up is so much easier.

Also....when i have minimum functionality i can look at one or two
little things that can be put away here and there, even if i can't
face getting a lot done at once.....and this helps on a practical and a
morale level.

I also have some fallbacks built in. Two good ones are a pharmacy that
delivers and works well with my doctors by phone and fax, and a a
supermarket (the Safeway chain) where I cn go on line and order
groceries for the same instrore, in ad prices plus a $10 delivery fee.
I used this when I needed to by the large bag of doog food.......and to
stock up on nonperishables when there are good sales. I still use it
about one a month...but it can be delivered tomorrow if I can't get it
together to leave the house and I'm running out of stuff.

Hope this helps.

Maggie
yes, i have given this a whole lot of thought.
Maggie
2006-06-21 01:22:42 UTC
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Post by Markey
My doctor thinks I may have ADHD along with my bipolar.
I know a lot of the symptoms cross over from each illness.
Has anyone been diagnosed with both?
If so, How do you handle both illnesses?
Mark
This is the best resource guide I've ever found on the topic of getting
yourself and your life organized:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00011D1MM/ref=pd_rvi_gw_1/002-7183783-7592827?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=130

Julie Morganstern has been on Oprah and on PBS. I've been working with
her syspem for 5 years and it works.

More importantly, her view is that organizing is a skill that anyone
can learn and she doesn't morallize or preach or make you feel like a
fool. shes very hellpful and very matter of fact and her ideas focus
on findind a methog that works for YOU and tweeking it to suit you
well.

She also has 3 chapters in the frount that deal with the psycology of
why we cllutter...wveral examples of thinking styles.....then goes into
the basic concepts like putting things near where you use them,
grouping like items, how to sort and purge what you actually have in
order to know what else you need to buy.....and avoid buying dupicales
of things you know you have but just can't find.

this is also available as a book and an audio tape.

You start with one area at a time....even if it's just one shelf or one
drawer and once you have the system that suits you enplace it seems to
last forever.....you just have to keep up with putting things back
where they really belong.

But the concept of being able to find stuff beause it doesn have a
place that it really belongs...and you can find it......is the mazimum
luuxury.

Good luck

Maggie
Harry
2006-06-29 21:50:27 UTC
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Post by Maggie
Post by Markey
My doctor thinks I may have ADHD along with my bipolar.
I know a lot of the symptoms cross over from each illness.
Has anyone been diagnosed with both?
If so, How do you handle both illnesses?
Mark
This is the best resource guide I've ever found on the topic of getting
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00011D1MM/ref=pd_rvi_gw_1/002-7183783-7592827?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=130
Julie Morganstern has been on Oprah and on PBS. I've been working with
her syspem for 5 years and it works.
More importantly, her view is that organizing is a skill that anyone
can learn and she doesn't morallize or preach or make you feel like a
fool. shes very hellpful and very matter of fact and her ideas focus
on findind a methog that works for YOU and tweeking it to suit you
well.
She also has 3 chapters in the frount that deal with the psycology of
why we cllutter...wveral examples of thinking styles.....then goes into
the basic concepts like putting things near where you use them,
grouping like items, how to sort and purge what you actually have in
order to know what else you need to buy.....and avoid buying dupicales
of things you know you have but just can't find.
this is also available as a book and an audio tape.
You start with one area at a time....even if it's just one shelf or one
drawer and once you have the system that suits you enplace it seems to
last forever.....you just have to keep up with putting things back
where they really belong.
But the concept of being able to find stuff beause it doesn have a
place that it really belongs...and you can find it......is the mazimum
luuxury.
Good luck
Maggie
I exhibit symptoms of ADHD and obsessive-compulsive,maybe at times
enough for the Dxs.Oh,I forget Avoidant Personality Disorder.which a
good therapist noted.& I treated people for those "problems",but they
usually didn't have all that pathology at the same time.& I may have
more. Oh,boy! Harry

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